While I understand your frustration, it's a kind of done it to itself, mantra. Went through this a few years ago with flashlights. People were modding flashlights or building special flashlights to meet demands the more "techy" types wanted. They were WELL versed in using Li-Ion batteries, how to care and feed them, how to check them after use, how to check them after charging etc.
Well, inevitably, some of these lights got into the hands of the not so "techy" people and problems ensued. Batteries blew up on chargers, flashlights blew up, people put rechargeable batteries in flashlights no intended for them and so on. Then an emphasis was put on educating people on the proper use of these batteries and flashlights, problems slowed, but still happen.
PV's are in this phase now. It started as a group of people that wanted more, were willing to put the effort in to learn how to properly use and maintain them, no big problem. Now they are going mainstream and everybody wants the "easy" button to use them.
I'm sorry, but there isn't one! Batteries are storage devices, as such there are inherent problems with them! A year ago last summer, we were in Vegas on vacation and a neighbor called me. A propane refill station, not four miles from my house had blown up! Guy was refilling tanks, made a mistake, blew up that bottle, blew up the bottles on the truck and luckily didn't catch the big tank on fire! He died, several hundreds of thousands of dollars in expenses etc., from a simple mistake.
Years and years ago, a friend of mine and I were out BSing in the yard, we'd driven his Jeep here and there and it had been sitting about half an hour then it sounded like a shotgun went off! After the dust settled and things cooled off we popped the hood. The battery had just exploded! Why? I've no idea! Put a new battery in and it was fine, I have no answer for that one at all! Never seen that before or since, but it sure scared me!
I've worked on 64 and higher voltage batteries in golf carts and electric forklifts, they scare me every time I change them out! I'd hook up the charger and run! Never had one blow, but I've seen the pictures of the aftermath!
I have an oxy-accetalyne torch/welder in the garage, I have to take care every time I charge the gauges up, I've seen the video where a guy made a simple mistake while charging his and the valve blew out and went through his chest!
I've seen pictures of a Surefire 9P flashlight loaded with CR123A batteries, not rechargeable's, he'd mismatched batteries, near as we could figure, putting one that was low on voltage in with two that were fresh and the strain made it blow! It went through the wall of a guard shack and traveled andother 120ft before it stopped at the base of a brick wall!
Will any of these things happen to you? Probably not, but you need to be aware of what CAN happen and how to prevent it. This is why the big push has been for protected, and now IMR batteries. They eliminate some of the problems of ignorance, but not all of it.
I'm not trying to scare you, but people really do need to be aware that this isn't a matter of "Pop one out and another one in" mentality. There really are a LOT of reasons you need to know the basics of this just for your safety. Maybe Morandir can explain it a little more friendly than I have, at least I hope he can. I don't mean to be a fear monger, but.........
Believe it or not Ms. AzVitesse this wasn't originally about battery safety, but why the 1.5 ohm dc cartos and the like don't work with certain items or at certain voltages. Safety aspects are important, and again have always been against KISS, but.....
Will end it on this, knowledge is power but ignorance is bliss. Whatever works for you, do....
I know, Mr. Morandir. :respect: Once again, if the vendors did a better job explaining their gear and what works with what, it would sure help eliminate confusion/frustration -- especially for new vapers.
Saw, I hear you on batt safety. We all take calculated risks in the choices we make. I just try to follow the basics with my PVs and minimize the risks. I don't see myself ever doing my own mods or anything like that, just as I never see myself rebuilding a car. I'd rather experiment with food and recipes in the kitchen. In that environment, I'm fearless! http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/...ps97f70f18.gif
AzVitesse, I am curious to know, what information would you like to see possibly on our site if we were to put some techie stuff up? Before we put something up that has no use I'd like to hear from you and our community.
It would be great if there was a technical information section, like how to fill tanks and the difference between the mods. I took me forever to figure this kind of stuff out, thanks to all the wonderful people on the forum. I am sure there are many out there with the same questions I had but won't sign up to be part of the forum. Thankfully, I was introduced to some wonderful videos that I wouldn't have found on my own.
This forum is the main reason I was sucessful and not frustrated with the experience, but forums aren't for everyone. We have accumulated some great information here. Some of it maybe could be made available on the main website.
Just a thought.
I also think it would be good if you carried spare batteries for the mods you sell, and label them on the site as such. That way we don't have the issue of someone "Is this the right battery for this? What battery do I need to order for it?" etc... Just a simple "This battery fits the OMG, but don't use in the Handle" "This battery fits the Handle, but don't use in the OMG"
Then a simple "If you want to learn more about safe use and understanding of rechargeable batteries please look at this site, Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University "
Just a thought of course.
Please offer thoughts :)! You guys are great and we want to make sure that your feedback is heard and I have started a Google Doc so that I can document these responses so things can be done in the future.
Wow!! I have no idea what any of that means, but thank you for posting it Morandir sir! I'm sure it is very helpful to some people!
This is one reason I am hesitant to get into mods. I love the idea and their function, but so much of it is way over my head! I'll just keep reading and when I'm ready I'll jump in.