Hey all! I am trying to figure out this vaping thing. I bought a Titan but I am going through cartos like crazy. I am looking at a Zeus kit. What is the most cost-effective piece to use? Would the Zeus and 6ml tank be less expensive than using pre-filled cartos with my Titan? Or Smilomizers? What's the difference? Thanks!
Also, using the Vapor4Life product I am 5 days cigarette free! I love it! I wouldn't have been able to do it without Vapor4Life!
hi turbonerd, both the tanks and the smile'os are more cost effective than prefilleds. just a personal preference which one you would like. I love the smile'os, use them with my DAVs. Congrats on the 5 days - its the start of a great vaping journey.
That is great to hear Turbo! Congrats on 5 days :thumbs:
Buying prefilled cartos is the least cost effective way to vape imo. I've never really crunched the numbers, and everyones experience will be different, but here's my :twocents:
This is going to be way longer than I want it to be but there are so many variables.
Easy answer: If it works for you (<--very important to keep in mind) then cleaning and refilling the regular cartos with juice is the least expensive route to go.
More detail than you probably wanted to know:
The cartos, tanks and smileos are really just different versions of the same thing. Tanks use cartos and smileos are really big cartos. Cost of replacing burned/used cartos....regular cartos are the cheapest, then tank cartos and then smileomizers. But they can all be cleaned which will cut down on costs.
Carto (all cartos) info:
-They burn if you vape too much at one time, the juice doesn't have time to wick properly
-They burn if you vape them dry/don't refill often enough
Tank pros and cons:
-Less refilling than the little 1ml cartos, 6ml tanks take even less refilling than the 3.5
-You can see when the juice is getting low
-Can leak for several different reasons, dumping good juice
-O-rings can break if not properly cared for, so you have to buy a new tank
-I've never broken a tank, but I've dropped them before breaking the drip tip
Smileomizer pros and cons:
-Less refilling than the little 1ml cartos
-Very sturdy, drip tip does not break
-More expensive to replace when they die
Do you know how many batts you go through in a day? I believe it is recommended to at least have double the amount of batts that you use in one day (or is it week?). At the very least. I think it's better to have more because you never know what might happen. If you look at the cost of several stick batts vs. 3-4 big batts I think it is cheaper to go with the big ones. Have you vaped at 5v before? Unless you know that you like 5v vaping I wouldn't recommend jumping straight to a Zeus. Personally I have loved 5v vaping since my first experience with a PT so the Zeus was a dream come true. However, for newer vapers I usually recommend the Dial-A-Volt.
Zeus pros and cons:
-5v restricts you to one voltage all the time
-Some juices burn at higher volts
-Faster charging time than other big batts
-Can be charging and used at the same time so you're never stuck with a bunch of drained batts
-More expensive than the DAV
Dial-A-Volt pros and cons:
-Variable voltage so you can change it to fit your personal taste
-Takes 10-12 hours to charge
Vaping is all a matter of personal preference. Unfortunately you don't know what you like until you try it. Best of luck and let us know if you have any more questions.
|wow/cool cart blanks
|replacement carto, 3.5
|replacement carto, 6
Sorry for the consecutive posts but I had this long explanation and it disappeared. :(
I was curious so I did some calculations.
Prices and capacity are from the Vapor4Life shop, except for the blank carts. That one I had to estimate, assuming 1 ml = 35 to 40 drops, and with the reviews saying it takes around 18 to 24 drops.
Table also assumes one time use, which makes the last two rows kinda silly since it pretends that you throw the carto as soon as the tank empties once. Didn't want to factor in multiple refills however, since one's mileage will vary depending on vaping habits and juice preferences, and so on.
WOW! Thank you all for your comments! Such amazing info!
Now I can't decide between the Zeus and the DAV. I like you look of the Zeus and the fact that it lasts so long between charges. But now I worry about it burning juices. I would be bummed if one of the juices that it burns is one of my favorite flavors.
Which ones are your favorites? Maybe someone has used it and can say whether it burns or not.
Originally Posted by TurboNerd
Also, a cheap way to vape at 5v before getting a Zeus is to get a passthrough. I think they are $20. The only drawback is that you may not ever use it again once you move on to other things. But you can always keep it as a backup or give it away to a smoker you know.
I haven't had the chance to try many but I like the Traditional Tobacco and Cafe Mocha most so far. I've only tried a few flavors though.
So, I like the sound of the clear tanks. I am having a hard time telling when the carts are low. I think I'll try those. I just need to decide between Zeus and DAV soon because I am running low on cartos and need to make an order. :(
I'd start with a DAV, because you can get close to 5V to see if you like it. And you can try other voltages to see how it affects the flavor of the juice. 3.2-4.8V vs. a fixed 5V.
Originally Posted by TurboNerd
Hiya TurboNerd, I have stick batteries, DAV's and a zeus, the zeus is pretty much all I use now with 3.5mil tanks, I love the setup, but I still keep the DAV's as backups, and personally I wouldn't have a zeus without a DAV too, with the DAV you can cut down the volts if you want, where with the zeus you are stuck at 5 volts. The charging time and passthrough on the zeus is awesome, which really helps, sat here right now with my zeus plugged into my lap top vaping. I plan on getting another zeus soon, but still glad I have the DAV's too.
There is pro and cons to both, but if only having one battery, then with the DAV, the charging time may really hinder you, I started with just one DAV and quickly got a 2nd one, so always had one charging.